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On pugging and being ‘carried’

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After writing the previous post and mentioning my DK, I’ve been thinking a little more about the new LFG system and the groups it puts together. Nick and I have a hunch that the groups are selected through some sort of gear score, since it seems like (at least with DPS) there is usually one person doing 3-5k, one doing 2-2.5k, and one in blues and greens doing less than 2k. On occasion, I see people in my guild or in general chat complaining about ‘carrying’ others in heroics or raids. Just to be clear, when a person is being carried it usually implies that they are doing such a small percentage of the damage that they are making little or no impact on the success of the group within the instance or raid.

So when is carrying someone okay? Probably the most important concern is whether the person being carried is causing the group to wipe or keeping the group from completing the instance in a timely manner. For obvious reasons, the former is much clearer cut than the latter. When I’m trying to establish if I should leave a group that is moving slowly, I try to think about the speed at which things are cleared when I come into heroics on less geared alts. That is usually a good benchmark; I’m an okay player even without gear – if these people are worse than that, it might be time to leave. I, honestly, have absolutely no problem carrying other DPS in heroics when I am on my main. I specifically remember when I first got Eau to 80 (back in the days of spamming trade for heroics), I got in on a group that ran about 10 heroics in a chain from a geared guild (which, back then, meant OMG NAXX GEAR, haha). I was so amazed that they all passed on all the blues and purples that I needed so much.

There are times, though, when carrying people doesn’t work out. For example, an undergeared tank or healer often cannot even be carried in a 5 man environment (no amount of pew pew is going to keep you alive, haha). Another place that I consider carrying someone to be ridiculous is in a progression raid. The idea that someone that is being carried in a raid could win a piece of gear over me is irritating, to say the least (this is usually not an issue in our guild 10s since we’re all good friends, but it has come up in 25s occasionally when we merge with other guilds). Raiding is also an environment where healers can be carried, but I think that is just putting unfair strain on the other healers. I don’t feel the same sort of pressure when I am carrying someone else as a DPS.

More generally, it’s pretty pitiful to come into a raid (especially if it’s progression for your guild) without gear, since it’s so easy to pug now and a lot of gear is available either from drops in the new heroics or through emblems (I was able to get Zela, my new-ish 80 rogue to 4k dps in a couple of weeks of running heroics). It’s not that you should be expected to be pulling the top DPS in your guild with heroic gear. It’s that you’ll be doing more damage than the tanks at least (doing less damage than tanks is usually a good benchmark to evaluate if someone is being carried, except if you’re up against a pally tank on AoE groups). Having a lot of emblem gear also shows that you’re a dedicated player and that you’ve played your class/spec for at least a few hours.

Written by Mariana

January 21, 2010 at 5:34 pm

Additional Instances cannot be launched.

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Terrible!This picture was taken before patch 3.2, but I think we can all understand the frustration that is going on.  And this wasn’t even in Northrend…IT’S GNOMEREGAN!  I was trying to get some engineering pet recipes that night…and I didn’t get in for over half of an hour.  /sigh /sigh /yawn.

This has gotten even worse since patch 3.2 has hit and emblems of conquest have been dropping from heroics.  On our server (Burning Blade-US), we have had very long waits at the new ‘door boss’ but luckily no raids have been effected.  Other servers have not been so lucky, with these epic door bosses now keeping 10 and 25 member raids from entering Naxxramas.

I’ve already seen plenty of screenshots of chats with GMs.  They are all pretty much the same: some QQ from a player and some ‘we are aware of this problem’ from the GM.  Most players just want some more servers, but the GMs and CMs like to tell us its more work than just inserting a new RAM card into our PCs.  Well, thanks for being specific Blizzard!

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Brr! It’s Cold In Here…

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There must be some Death Knight in the atmosphere! oh ee oh ee oh ee…ice ice ice…..

I’ve been waiting to put that down in words for awhile now. Anyway, guess what!
My death knight hit level 80 over the weekend, which means it is now time to rake in the gold and seriously start saving up for that Traveler’s Tundra Mammoth. Must….Have….Personal….Vendors!

Level 80 is nice so far. I dinged in Sholazar Basin, which means I have Storm Peaks, Icecrown and Howling Fjord quests still to do before I can get Loremaster of Northrend. It’ll also bank a fair amount of gold as well.

Today I ran three level 80 instances with some people who used to be in Lux or were on an alt in a different guild. The guild is called Fists of Might and I was invited onto their Ventrillo server for the runs. First we did Culling of Stratholme, then Utguarde Pinnicle, and finally we did the Oculus. They were all pretty good. I didn’t die once, and made out with some nice gold from the quests in each instance. I really like the idea of quest givers for the instance being inside the instance so you have to pick them up before you get going with the killing. Both Culling of Stratholme and Utguarde Pinnicle have quest givers like this.

Also, on a more social stance…I must say the amount of southerns who play on our server is pretty amazing. Now, I don’t know if this branches out to other US servers as well, but damn, the accents I heard over that Ventrillo server were enough to make me never want to look at the bottom half of a US map again! …ill keep my cold winters and good tasting pizza thank you very much…

Other than that, not much is happening. Still iffy about the Lux et Veritas raiding situation, we’ll see what happens with that soon I’m sure.

That’s all folks,
Nick Fox

Written by Nick

December 31, 2008 at 1:52 am